Comments - Porsche May Nix the Manual Soon

Published: Feb 20, 2013
Description: With nearly 80 percent of buyers opting for the PDK dual-clutch gearbox over a manual transmission for popular models like the 911 and Cayman, Porsche has recently admitted outright that the conventi...
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Nicholas Morissette May 08, 2013
The fastest car ever made, the Hennessey Venom GT, has a six-speed stick.
Adam Thomson Mar 02, 2013
But manual is good as well for other Porsche models...
Dylan Bruder Feb 26, 2013
They just tweaked that 7 speed too
Colby Church Feb 22, 2013
All people who don't mind if manual isn't offered aren't true drivers. I don't want computer systems doing all the work. People should learn how to drive. There isn't near the same level of excitement or pride when you're not using a gearbox.
Colby Church Feb 22, 2013
There will always be some cars offered with manual, even when most have switched over. There is no experience like driving a fast manual car. You feel connected to the car, and it relies on your skill to shift correctly and efficiently.
Colby Church Feb 22, 2013
Instead of a finger flick when it gets to redline, the car depends on the driver to accurately shift into the correct gear quickly, and maintaining proper clutch control to make the shift possible. It requires skill, one which most don't possess.
Colby Church Feb 22, 2013
Here is the issue. Less and less people know how to drive manual with each generation. People are so used to automatics and depend on the car. Those of us with the skill to work a gearbox properly know that it is the purest way to truly drive a car.
Vito Portanova Feb 22, 2013
There must be a small percent of people in this world that think a stick is great. I guess numbers talk. My DCT in my m3 is faster, and Imo better than a stick. Great on a track,streets and traffic.
Frank Ceravolo Feb 22, 2013
Could that percentage correlate with the number of dbags that only buy pcars today because of the brand's cache? I'll be buried in my manual 993, but Porsche won't get another penny from me now that they've completely paris hiltoned the brand.
Justin Johnson Feb 22, 2013
Driver's car my ass
Taylor J. Blake Feb 22, 2013
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Jason Ware Feb 21, 2013
I just died a little inside.
Jacob Burford Feb 21, 2013
I guess only 20% of Porsche drivers get to fully enjoy there car!
Jeremy Moniz Feb 21, 2013
Mike Bradnan Feb 21, 2013
I don't think they should get rid of manuals. I would personally prefer automated. I do still like the manual though
Sasa Jungic Feb 21, 2013
This is sad. Why are people so lazy these days.
Tyler James Davis Feb 21, 2013
Manuals are the best way to drive cars!!! I'd cry!!
Austin Lerner Feb 21, 2013
I'd rather die than see Porsche do this.
Adam Thomson Feb 21, 2013
I think the PDK transmission is better altough im not used to like porsches.
Jon Strahs Feb 21, 2013
Ryan Yee Feb 20, 2013
Save the manuals!!!
Donald Chip Schofield Feb 20, 2013
Keep them as an option! Especially for the 911 GT3RS
Clinton Burger Feb 20, 2013
Manual transmissions are like type writers. I'm sure there were people who disagreed with getting rid of them at first, but technology always wins.
Zaire Wilkins Feb 20, 2013
You guys will live
Pablo Herasme Feb 20, 2013
Jon Ashley Feb 20, 2013
No... I'm only 18! I need to live in a world with manuals!
Regan Bunn Feb 20, 2013
The purist in me is throwing up!!! The thing is the shifts are faster. You can still control the car with the double clutch designs etc
Matt Piccolo Feb 20, 2013
@ Alex, nooooooooooooooo, really?
Alex Bouckley Feb 20, 2013
Matt changed his profile pic?
Gray Conron Feb 20, 2013
Save the Manuals!!!!!!! Don't kill them off please!!!!!!!!!!
Matt Piccolo Feb 20, 2013
@ jimmy, ahah Audi, merc and BMW still make manuals. Slow down their bud
Chris Huff Feb 20, 2013
Cian Mac Gearailt Feb 20, 2013
Depressing news the pleasure of changing gear with a manual is unbeatable and im sure the types of gt3 and gt2 will stay manual as there all about being as mechanical as possible
Ferniand Silvia Feb 20, 2013
Love the manual in my 911 C2. Wouldn't have it any other way. Hopefully it will continue as an option for a long time.
Chase Fecko Feb 20, 2013
Check out car and drivers "Save the manuals " fb page
Chase Fecko Feb 20, 2013
I can understand on these high sports cars the PDK. But a Manual in my slow subaru is a must. Also, why are non track going car buyers so concerned a out how fast there shifts are...?
Paul Trahan Feb 20, 2013
I knew this was going to happen the first time I read that they were offering the PDK in the GT3.
Mark Boulton Feb 20, 2013
Franklin- if your implying that the PDK in any way resembles a CVT you need to do more research. A PDK is setup like a manual transmission, but has 2 input shafts and 2 clutches. It can shift better than ANY human- faster, smoother etc.
Franklin Barfield Feb 20, 2013
No car loving automotive engineer would curse his design with a CVT unless the jack booted thugs in congress and @ EPA, NHTSA etc, weren't trying to put them out of business. One by one the simple automotive pleasures like manual trannies disappear replaced by more complex, expensive and less gratifying tools. Pity.
Jimmy Case Feb 20, 2013
Looks like America will make the last true drivers car.
Dylan Richardson Feb 20, 2013
how dare they
Franklin Barfield Feb 20, 2013
Oh and I forgot to mention the role government environmental regulations play into what kind of trannie is available to consumers. These manufacturers must factor in CAFE mandates and the resultant gas-guzzler taxes to their own and their potential customers bottom line.
Mark Boulton Feb 20, 2013
Actually a lot of the people who buy the PDK do drive there cars, it's an amazing feeling how fast and smooth it shifts, in normal mode you can't feel it- in Sport Plus RPM's always stay between 4-6k.... I love manual trans, but I see why people want
Bala Uncc Feb 20, 2013
Aren't the first and second paragraphs contradicting to each other? I think it is too early to freak out.
Ethan Amo Feb 20, 2013
If Porsche does that, then they could be my most hated auto maker...
David Justice Feb 20, 2013
I wouldn't fret too much. Should be plenty of manual cars out there for years to come. Plus, it looks like the drivers at Motortrend or Top Gear are having lots of fun driving the new transmission; 458, 991 911, M5... Still got smiles on their faces.
Tyler Tarbox Feb 20, 2013
As long there is still a slight demand for manuals, the option will be there. People need to calm down
Chris Penza Feb 20, 2013
If gearheads continue to want manuals, there will always be transmission swaps
John M Weishahn Feb 20, 2013
The fact that better exists does not mean that good enough is irrelevant.
Ashton Summers Feb 20, 2013
On that note, buy a manual Porsche, may be worth more as a collector down the road.
Matt Piccolo Feb 20, 2013
Well this is sad
Carlton Green Feb 20, 2013
I drive a six speed everyday and I love it. Makes me sad to hear my fave sportscar might not have it by the time I can afford it. Im holdin on to my stick
Malachi Monteiro Feb 20, 2013
Since the C7 Corvette has a 7 Speed Manual, there is still hope for the future of performance cars with manuals.
Robert Odom Feb 20, 2013
Rommel is clearly a moron. But I digress, I know that manuals aren't the most efficient anymore, but gosh darn it I just love driving them so dang much. Please save the manuals.
Rommel Powell Feb 20, 2013
I don't want manuals to be done with for good, I just know that I hate driving them. Id rather have my hand free to smoke some herb and play with my females passenger. Thats just me tho. (Shrugs)
Franklin Barfield Feb 20, 2013
Lets face it demand trumps everything. There's not enough demand for a traditional manual to warrant the expense and development. This is a great business decision. Demand is for DSG and full-auto trannies for all auto makers. It has nothing to do with buyer's incomes but everything to do with what most people desire. That's why traction control is on a Viper now. Most buyers want/expect it.
Rico Turner Feb 20, 2013
Only people who don't know how to properly drive a manual agree with this.
Patrick Schalk Feb 20, 2013
Another one bites the dust
Michael J Solimene Feb 20, 2013
It's always nice to have an option
Michael J Solimene Feb 20, 2013
Will Kirk Feb 20, 2013
I knew it! All but the boutiques will follow Porsche. PDKs are just plain superior, just like a more powerful engine.
Griffin Ross Feb 20, 2013
Thanks to all the rich people who want to buy an expensive nice road car and drive it like its a smart car.
Stephen Cobbs Feb 20, 2013
The worlds ending
Jacob Burford Feb 21, 2013
Very sleek!
Chris Huff Feb 20, 2013
This one is so much better than the old one
Vinny Coppola Feb 20, 2013
Me2 this color is beautiful
Bala Uncc Feb 20, 2013
Love the megahomy metallic color
Description: With the ratio of PDK to manuals sold continuing to rise in dual-clutch's favor, and rumors that even the track-focused GT3 will go PDK in its newest iteration, how much time has the three-pedal gearb...
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Daniel Alexander Soutar Jun 27, 2013
But that's not the point. Sports cars are cars to have fun in, not go fast. If I want a fast car, I'll buy a track car specifically with that aim in mind. I want a car where I do something. Rohrl said it himself - you don't do anything. That's bad.
Jt Collier Feb 22, 2013
because thinking progressively is for pussies. well said. i dont agree with the move but they are about performance cars. Manuals just simply arnt as fast or efficient, thats why F1 cars use flappy paddles.
Colby Church Feb 22, 2013
Porsche has a lazy ass excuse for a driver. Oh well, I'm sure that the Corvette will be offered in manual for decades to come. They know what's up. That's a true driver's car. I used to respect Porsche, but now they just look like pussies.
Matthew Mazzarelli Feb 21, 2013
Don't blame Porsche, blame the buyers. I understand them completely.
Blake Antil Feb 20, 2013
I may not drive stick. And actually I never have (but if I had to I could). Still I like cars enough to understand the connection between a driver and a stick shift. What's next? Steering wheels are gonna be obsolete?
Lou Guerrero Feb 20, 2013
Ethan, please look up Walter Rohrl. To say he's talented is a gross understatement. Check yourself.
Stephen Krane Feb 20, 2013
Actually you can buy a cayenne with a manual as long as its a v6
James E Caldwell Feb 20, 2013
I blame the 80% auto/pdk on their large number of SUV and sedan sales. I'd like to think those numbers are not do high on their sports cars.
Alex Bouckley Feb 20, 2013
The PDK actually works well though
Cian Mac Gearailt Feb 20, 2013
People who buy the likes of a 911 are usually wealthy enough to think they shouldn't have to change gear
Tyler Howell Feb 20, 2013
Scott Whittman Feb 20, 2013
CPUs can do so much better than humans. If you want to feel everything get a manual.
Ethan Amo Feb 20, 2013
Lazy ass driver.....
Franklin Barfield Feb 20, 2013
Listen to the purists howl! But Porsche listens to what enables them to sell more and better Porsches. $$$$ talks. Buy more manuals and they will build more. It is stupid to spend boatloads of money developing better manual trannies when only a handful of people order them. I like manuals too but technology marches on.
Dennis Choong Feb 20, 2013
I don't know about the 991, but 986 & 996 shared the same chassis, only the 996 has its unique rear suspension to cope with the weight distribution.
Vinny Coppola Feb 20, 2013
I agree with Franklin, the cayman is a much better looking car. The 911 always reminded me of a stretched out Beatle...
Franklin Barfield Feb 20, 2013
I think RUF customers would argue you down on that. In fact were you to own one you'd likey retract that notion. How is it you find a rear engine and a mid engine design similar? The only reason the Cayman won't out accelerate a 911 is because Porsche won't allow Cayman to have the requisite power. As far as handling is concerned its no contest.
Franklin Barfield Feb 20, 2013
@Erich if you intended to say that the Cayman is a a rear mid-engine design that would be correct. You are wrong in stating that it and the 911 share any design commonality beyond the basic engine format and the company name. The Cayman is better than the 911. Only Porsche keeps it 2nd fiddle to the 911.
Bala Uncc Feb 20, 2013
Each time I look at the rears of 911 and cayman my opinion changes on which one I like the most
Franklin Barfield Feb 20, 2013
@Ahmed how do you know I'm not a doctor? Anyway you are correct it is my opinion and my opinion is that the Cayman is the best looking Porsche ever built. Not even close. RUF designs are much better even than Porsche's own. Maybe you need to come see me in my office...
Tyler Tarbox Feb 20, 2013
@Ahmed. Looks are completely opinion based.
Ahmed Al Harthy Feb 20, 2013
@franklin I know it's ur opinion and all that.. But did you just said the cayman is a better looking than the actual 911?? U must go see a doctor
Franklin Barfield Feb 20, 2013
Never thought the 911 was a looker. The Cayman is much better design, but there is no doubt Porsche is a technological marvel making that design handle with so much of the engine behind the rear axle. And this even without awd. Those guys are magicians. Kudos.
Petro Maalouf Feb 20, 2013
What a beauty and simple design , but never drop the manual porsche keep it to stay special
Jacob Burford Feb 21, 2013
Color is a bit much, but the interior itself is sweet!
Adam Thomson Feb 21, 2013
Agreed its hideous interior this.
Kyle Kloewer Feb 20, 2013
Cian Mac Gearailt Feb 20, 2013
I love the look of the manual gearbox stick just nice and simple
Taylor Garry Feb 20, 2013
Oh god this is bad
Tyler Tarbox Feb 20, 2013
Porsche interiors have always been amazing. Even the new C7 has nothing on this
Ashton Summers Feb 20, 2013
Silver and red, best combo ever.
Matt Piccolo Feb 20, 2013
Looks great! Always loved red interiors
Noah Gavurin Feb 20, 2013
just enough pedals, not too few, not too many
Matthew Mckernan Feb 20, 2013
I love red leather, I think it looks great! This may be a little much though, I'd prefer that the dashboard and maybe the steering wheel was black.
Miko Reginella Feb 20, 2013
Too much red
Tyler James Davis Feb 21, 2013
Burn the gearbox quick!
Bala Uncc Feb 20, 2013