Comments - Camaro 1LE Laps VIR in 2:58

Published: Jul 31, 2012
Description: 0-60 times, quarter-mile traps and top speeds are all well and fine, but they're isolated indicators of a vehicle's performance. What you really need to compare a car's capabilities is ...
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John Serely Jul 31, 2012
I agree patrick, I read a MT review of it, pretty cool
Matt Sutton Jul 31, 2012
Oooohhhh. I'd like to see an article on that. Good idea.
Patrick Schalk Jul 31, 2012
BTW Carbuzz, if you guys see this, you should look into the SRT 392 Ram Quick Silver concept. Pretty slick truck.
Alex Smith Jul 31, 2012
Should have a black roof too
Abraham Mendoza Jul 31, 2012
I quite like that.
Description: At the top of the VIR leader board sits the Corvette ZR1 with a 2:45 lap time, the Viper ACR just a few ticks behind it 2:48. Now Chevrolet is touting its Camaro 1LE, which recorded a lap at 2:58. Wai...
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Ben August Aug 06, 2012
You sound so stupid. You think adding 250hp will not improve the time? As stated in the video, they broke the previous lap record WITHOUT added power. Wtf you think is gonna happen when you add nearly 300hp to the mix.
Ben August Aug 06, 2012
He broke the previous track record for stock camaro, by SECONDS. That means if you can improve on the time with skill alone, to the degree of SECONDS (plural mind you), that he can also improve his time with upgrades. Duh.
Aaron Cartwright Aug 02, 2012
And if you think you can make up two seconds by just adding or subtracting hp you have a lot to learn my friend
Aaron Cartwright Aug 02, 2012
Ben you pretend to know what your talking about but two seconds on a track is an eternity lol
Ben August Aug 02, 2012
There's nothing ridiculous about noting that a heavily modified 43 year old pro-touring champ car, with 250 additional HP, could only beat a stock ZL1 by 2 seconds.
Ben August Aug 02, 2012
You don't know which vehicle is more balanced? Do research: height; wheelbase; length; width; weight ratio; etc. We know which one is more balanced, because no one copies the 43 year old design. It's outdated and inferior.
Aaron Cartwright Aug 01, 2012
@Ben its a ridiculous argument with absolutely no factual data to back it up, cause we actually don't know how big a factor hp was due to the config of the road course, and you don't actually know wich car is more balanced. It's a dumb argument troll
Justin Routh Aug 01, 2012
So if you really believe that its "pathetic" then youre pathetic. A 43 year old car that can keep up with a new car is amazing regardless if it has 200 extra hp or not
Justin Routh Aug 01, 2012
Yes but you obviously dont get the point either ben. The red devil is a 43 year old car!!!!! Thats insane obviously the new one is gonna win with the same hp....
Ben August Aug 01, 2012
What I'm saying is that the red devil, was 2 seconds faster, with a 250hp advantage. Pathetic. I GUARANTEE at equal HP, the Red Devil is decimated, due to its INFERIOR CONSTANTS, that CANNOT be changed.
Ben August Aug 01, 2012
Constants are what make certain cars superior, as opposed to other cars. Torque, HP, suspension components= all variable. The geometry and physics engineering design of the car is a constant (for the most part). Seriously my god
Ben August Aug 01, 2012
The point is that people are acting like this red devil is amazing; it's only faster because of the variable increase in HP, and, it was only 2 seconds faster, with 250 more HP. That's pathetic. The car is innately inferior.
Ben August Aug 01, 2012
Omg I'm surrounded by morons; HP IS a variable; it can be changed. That's what a variable is: it can vary. Ever changed the wheelbase distance of your car? NO. And likely, you never will. HP IS A VARIABLE. Lol
Aaron Cartwright Aug 01, 2012
@ben I had a car that put down 130hp at the crank that killed cars with 500hp , mind you it was a verry tight mountian road but I'd finish a good 30-40 seconds ahead. Hp is worthless if you can't get it down and your car isn't set up
Ben August Aug 01, 2012
You guys do realize HP is a simple, modifiable, variable...right? Obviously, 750HP > 400HP, and translates to faster times. But when HP is equal, that is when you determine which car is innately better. I promise you, 750HP each, red devil = loser
Michael Davidson Aug 01, 2012
I'm pretty sure he thinks this is about the ZL1 still.
Aaron Cartwright Aug 01, 2012
@ben this car is 10 seconds slower than the ZL1 lol it wouldn't be a close race. You do know this article isn't about a ZL1 right?
Ben August Jul 31, 2012
Omg it had 200+ less HP and only lost by 2 seconds. Please, that's pathetic. A few shifts, a couple more HP, and the newer would have won. What's wrong with you people?? guess what happens when both have equal HP lol. Morons
Abraham Mendoza Jul 31, 2012
But you have to admit, its a damn cheap track car.
Aaron Cartwright Jul 31, 2012
@ben I'm sorry but in the video the ZL1 was slower than the red devil, and the ZL1 had a faster lap time than the 1LE which this article is about. So common sense would say this 30grand car doesn't come close to the Zl1 let alone the red devil
Ben August Jul 31, 2012
Oh really? The red devil beat it on this track, and has a faster lap? Where, when?
Brad Hickey Jul 31, 2012
the red devil is a 750hp track touring car. Sooo yes, it would smack this too.
Aaron Cartwright Jul 31, 2012
@ben your iether trolling or a complete idiot. This car is slower than the zl1 and the red devil beat it so common sense would say the red devil would kill this car
Ben August Jul 31, 2012
Don't kid yourself.
Bruce-Almighty Tumblin Jul 31, 2012
Yea Aaron the Red Devil is just plane nasty! You would need the new GT500, ZR1, or the new Viper to make it a race
Aaron Cartwright Jul 31, 2012
@ben you might want to watch the video of the red devil again, cause it would destroy this car
Ben August Jul 31, 2012
I'd like to see that "red devil" from yesterday try to keep up.
Dylan Bruder Jul 31, 2012
What do you expect? It's not gonna keep up with zr1s vipers and other top cars in the world
Matt Piccolo Jul 31, 2012
Yea 13 seconds on a track this short is A LOT!
Devin Babyn Jul 31, 2012
They make it sound like 13 seconds isn't a long ass time for a lap
Bruce-Almighty Tumblin Jul 31, 2012
Let the shit talking begin fan boys! (Boss 302 vs. 1LE) ROUND 1 FIGHT!
Bruce-Almighty Tumblin Jul 31, 2012
Can't wait for the head to head comparison, its coming!
Zeus Mocha Jul 31, 2012
Hitting my dealer in a little for one of these hopefully. Very...tight? car.
Description: The 1LE costs just $37k - markedly less than the $100k ZR1 and ACR. Its time places it on par with the Shelby GT500 and the base Corvette (which cost a good thirteen grand more), and more to the point...
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Bruce-Almighty Tumblin Aug 01, 2012
Not so fast Patrick, that's Chevrolet doing their own testing; wait till an unbiased group test both cars head to head then we will see
Aaron Cartwright Aug 01, 2012
@patrick @brad @anthony
Aaron Cartwright Aug 01, 2012
not comfortable in and with our current skill level of driving think again. But the more comfortable you are in a car the faster you can probably drive it so my advice would be to drive them both with an open mind and see for yourself.
Aaron Cartwright Aug 01, 2012
For what they are, they are both good cars, it really comes down to what you like and what you fit into comfortably, why fight over mustang and camero, and besides if you think for a second that your going to produce the same numbers in a car your
Patrick Schalk Jul 31, 2012
Yet it's still faster than the Boss, huh.
Brad Wood Jul 31, 2012
@Justin: I see Camaro and see nothing but overweight, overly obnoxious, and cheap GM quality. The fact that it looks like a toy is something I just like to poke fun at. You can say "gimme", but they're not that expensive. Just go buy one.
Brad Wood Jul 31, 2012
@ Brad: ass-u-me. No "Stang" fan at all. Good try though. Any other assumptions you wish to make my friend?
Aaron Cartwright Jul 31, 2012
@anthony the laguna boss still has a solid axle and would suffer the same fate. Laguna is an extremely smooth track
Anthony Villa-Garcia Jul 31, 2012
@aaron. I understand, but if it is a Laguna seca boss, then it should have been more than fine. the boss ls is a track oriented car, but I guess if this were a stock boss then it would have trouble in those few corners.
Aaron Cartwright Jul 31, 2012
@Anthony it's a bad comparison, this track is very bumpy and lots of mid corner bumps wich affect the mustang much more than the camero. I like the stang more but the suspension on the mustang isn't as good. Bumps=bad news for stang
Anthony Villa-Garcia Jul 31, 2012
the boss had a bad driver. the boss was compared to the zl1 and was around 5 seconds close in track time. so this 4 second lead would mean this camaro is just as good as its big brother. this story is messed up.
Cody Fullerton Jul 31, 2012
The only thing better about that mustang is the name. I must admit that Boss is pretty cool. I'm not sure about having it plastered down the side of the car though...
John Serely Jul 31, 2012
@hickey who are the other 2
Brad Hickey Jul 31, 2012
@justin Brad is mad because he is one of thee larger stang fanboys here.
Aaron Cartwright Jul 31, 2012
Im guessing the mid corner bumps might be the stangs downfall on this track and why the camero beat it do badly.. Fords got to lose that solid rear end
John Serely Jul 31, 2012
Wow 4 seconds faster than the Boss, well done Chevy, but I'll still take the stang
Devin Babyn Jul 31, 2012
Anyone know the Laguna Seca's time
Brad Wood Jul 31, 2012
$13k cheaper and your car looks like a Transformer toy? Awesome!
Tim Preisinger Jul 31, 2012
Chevy guy here, and even I'm surprised it's 4 seconds faster then the stang. Good job chevy!
Patrick Schalk Jul 31, 2012
4 seconds faster eh? Suck it Mustang boys!!!! The 1LE is here!
Aaron Cartwright Aug 01, 2012
Oh and I do know the face of a pissed off porsche driver lol there is nothing they hate more than being beat by what they consider a lesser car. so I can imagine he was pretty pissed to be beat by a camero. lol
Aaron Cartwright Aug 01, 2012
Porsche is definatly not untouchable I agree. I was in a 914 that blew the doors off a Carrara gt. of course the 914 had an ls7 puting 875 down at the rear wheels, so ya if that camero was tuned a bit I believe it
Craig Lafey Jul 31, 2012
Don't get me wrong guys I'm not busting on the Porsche I was just blown away with how fast they were. It was sick to cruise with them once they slowed down
Abraham Mendoza Jul 31, 2012
Yeah if it sounded amazing it was probably modified.
John Serely Jul 31, 2012
Your right, patrick
Patrick Schalk Jul 31, 2012
OR it was a highly modified Camaro. Porsches aren't untouchable.
John Serely Jul 31, 2012
@craig I think Aaron is right
Aaron Cartwright Jul 31, 2012
Oh or it was a boxter
Aaron Cartwright Jul 31, 2012
@Craig the Porsche wasn't trying
Aundreav Anderson Jul 31, 2012
I don't know but I don't think their out yet?
Craig Lafey Jul 31, 2012
I saw one of these the other say on the way to New York and it killed a Porsche 911, sounded amazing and was fast as hell. Love these cars
Jacob Skelton Jul 31, 2012
I love all Cameros. Looks nice
Dan Marino Jul 31, 2012
It's wrapped in matte black. Definitely not carbon
Extremis Colson Jul 31, 2012
nice, but not digging the carbon fiber hood.
Dan Marino Jul 31, 2012
I wish it had the zl1 side skirts and spoiler like in the concept
Read Mills Aug 01, 2012
Way cool. Never knew that!
Aundreav Anderson Jul 31, 2012
The black hood is an old racers trick from back in the day it stops the glare from the sun on your hood from hitting your eyes
Chris Cook Jul 31, 2012
the black hood seems kinda odd with the rest of the car
CJ Tomlinson Jul 31, 2012
Beautiful exhausts