Comments - Pony Car Icons, Part 7: Dodge Challenger

Published: Jun 04, 2012
Description: The Dodge Challenger had the misfortune of being introduced several years after a number of competing pony cars, and therefore had the shortest production run of any classic pony car. This is unfortun...
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Description: Compared to the Barracuda, the Challenger was slightly bigger and slightly more upscale than the former with which it shared a platform. More specifically, it shared a platform with the second-generat...
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Brian Themoparguy Jan 02, 2013
With collectors bidding wars on one another, the prices will continue to skyrocket and drive up the whole muscle car market...... That's why the American automakers went retro to capitalize on it.
Phil Johnson Jun 05, 2012
Big block has nothing to do with displacement. It's all about the block. Chevy made a small block 400, and Chrysler had a big block 383.
Brandon Scobell Jun 04, 2012
true they make 472 small blocks. i think some engine builder was going for 500 inches with s small block. small block mountain motor. lol
Cory Poteet Jun 04, 2012
It was two small blocks(318 340) and four big blocks( 383 two 440's and the Hem
Jared Palmer Jun 04, 2012
Same w/ Ford. You could get a 351 sb and 351 bb.
Mikey Jimenez Jun 04, 2012
@Phillip I'm pretty sure the 383 was a big block and so was GM's 396 c.i. Cubic inches has nothing to do with the size of the block.
Jerrod Swenson Jun 04, 2012
The Barracuda was in its 3rd generation in 1970 not second.
Phillip Greene Jun 04, 2012
420ci is and up is big block
Phil Johnson Jun 04, 2012
I'm pretty sure you could order a Challenger with a 383, 440, and the Hemi. That makes three big blocks, unless you count the 440 as two engines (six-pack, and four barrel).
Ghaith AL-sharari Jun 05, 2012
Best color combo
Jacob McCord Jun 05, 2012
'70 Dodge Challenger 426 Hemi R/T I. Want. It.
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
Beautiful car, top of my pony list, not top of my classic american cars. Gotta break so many cars down so I can have a few favorites! :)
Esam Mohammad Jun 04, 2012
Yah the challenger is my favorite :) Finally they did the challenger article !
Elias Harb Jun 04, 2012
Its like science fiction, but without the fiction ( and without the science) ;)
Patrick Schalk Jun 04, 2012
Damn that looks so good. I want.
Mark A. Young Jun 04, 2012
First year is the best. Favorite car ever.
Dimitry Mikhailovich Malikov Jun 04, 2012
I love the Challenger! The wheels are not too bad.
Jerry Cole Jun 04, 2012
That purple one.... ( '-')/ / *can i have it?*
Taylor Little Jun 04, 2012
Sexy but not on the top of my list
Dylan Bruder Jun 04, 2012
Not mine but they are nice
Description: The most powerful of these was the 426 Hemi V8, which produced 425 horsepower and 490lb-ft of torque. Hemi-equipped Challengers could run the quarter mile in 13.2 seconds, a time which is still fast b...
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Jake Dula Mar 02, 2013
@Luke: That's exactly correct, Chrysler only gave those numbers to try (and fail) to soften up the insurance costs. In actuality a Hemi was making 500+ hp and tq on a dyno.
Luke Gordon Jun 05, 2012
Um so weren't those power numbers estimated by the manufacturer? I've heard of stock 426s putting out way more than what was on the estimates.
Jamie Perigo Jun 05, 2012
Yeah 13 sec while spinning those rock hard bias ply tires all the way. I also remember hemi badges from vanishing point
Christopher Helms Jun 05, 2012
the 70's film was a 440 and the 90's film was a 426 hemi
rahp Jun 05, 2012
the vanishing point car was a hemi ... or was it a 440 with hemi badges?
Tim Preisinger Jun 05, 2012
Tire technology has also increased throughout the years. Throw a set of modern day tires on a 70 426 challenger and it will run mid to high 12's all day
rahp Jun 04, 2012
were those 426 hemi times run on the old bias ply tires??? if so then the old car would be as quick or quicker than the new srt with newer tire technology.
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
Comparing the 70 426 beast to the current 5.7? Meh. This classic may not hold up to the new 392, but which one would you rather have? The faster 2012 or the rumble'n 426? I know my choice
Lee Gardner Jun 04, 2012
@Tony on driver the chally only goes 133
Thomas Vorholt Jun 04, 2012
Still, the quarter mile times of 40 plus year old muscle cars are astonishing compared to their modern counterparts. It's crazy that 42-47 years on, muscle cars aren't THAT much faster
Thomas Vorholt Jun 04, 2012
I agree with Riley. Compare the new Hemi with the old Hemi. It's only fair
Mark A. Young Jun 04, 2012
You could order a 528 V8 crate engine.
Jerry Cole Jun 04, 2012
bcuz back then there was no SRT. the R/T was the top of the line option of that era
Riley Gonzales Jun 04, 2012
Why does every publisher always say the R/T? The SRT is faster than that
Chris Penza Jun 04, 2012
The 440 six pack is also tanner's car in driver San Francisco
Description: Dodge was proud of the car, and took it to the 1970 Trans Am series in 1970. For this year only, Dodge made a Challenger T/A (Trans Am) edition for homologation. Homologation for these cars was do...
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Jacob McCord Jun 05, 2012
That's a sexy view and a mean stancd
Antonio Falsetti Jun 04, 2012
I'm glad dodge made the new challenger look so much like the old challenger. Unlike the camaro and the mustang.
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
Think the hood and front end is what makes the new ones do desirable. It was a beautiful design 40 years ago, still is
Devin Babyn Jun 04, 2012
One of the greatest hoods of all time
Jo�l Nijsten Jun 04, 2012
the longer you look to this car, the harder it is to turn your eyes of...
Isaac Cerda Jun 04, 2012
Ahhhh the dodge challenger
Description: The race cars did reasonably well on the track, but on the street, T/A buyers probably found themselves at a bit of a disadvantage when facing off against similarly homologated cars which had real...
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Description: The 1971 Challenger was still quite a good car, although Dodge was already seeing the handwriting on the wall for the pony car niche, and they didn't put quite as much effort in the '71 as t...
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Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
A car that really only was truly ponied for two years left such a mark... That's a tribute to the designers of dodge
Craig Lafey Jun 04, 2012
I want one so bad
Felix Legault Jun 04, 2012
I was at that show, it's called cruising at the board walk
Phil Johnson Jun 04, 2012
I wanna see more of that AAR!
Description: The car was actually reasonably quick for a subcompact of that era, but it is generally agreed that it wasn't proper to have named this car after the legendary Challenger. This four-cylinder vers...
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Description: The available engines aren't quite as numerous as they were in 1970, but they are enough to grab some decent sales figures, certainly better than the '71-'74 models. What the Challenger...
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Victor A. Frederick Jun 08, 2012
The Chally has a more historic look than any car, Camero has new age looks, and the mustang has some classic looks, but my Chally is a big beast that looks good...it's no slouch by any means. There is get up and go when needed, not everybody races.
David Neuman Jun 06, 2012
It's not a pony car. This car is not small in any way! Very definition of a pony is small frame large engine...This is the only muscle car on the market period.....
Steven Velez Jun 06, 2012
these are nice, mustang is great and all but way to overrated, can't go one day without seeing a couple 1,000 of them on the road. Cali gotta love it :/
Devin Babyn Jun 05, 2012
It's a pony car so it's kinda for the exact same people. They just made it a cruiser instead of having the performance
David Neuman Jun 05, 2012
The challenger is not a fail. Your an idiot! These cars are made for different buyers. I would never have purchased a camaro or mustang. Why? Because I like the challenger better. Do I care that the gt500 and zl1 are faster. No not really.
Mikey Jimenez Jun 05, 2012
*are you, *cause chevy and dodge
Mikey Jimenez Jun 05, 2012
Remember the size of the displacement had nothing to do with the size of the block. Anyways fords 5.0 coyote motor weighs closer to 500-600. While Chevy's LS7 (7.0) weighs 400lbs. C'mon Tino you're making yourself look like fool.
Mikey Jimenez Jun 05, 2012
@Tino are stuck in the 70's cause for and Dodge don't use Big Blocks any more 700-800 I don't think so. Both the Camaro and Challenger have small block big displacement I think it's funny when people mistake big bore for big block.
Michael Ly Jun 05, 2012
Wow I had just meant dodge , my bad lol
Alex Smith Jun 05, 2012
Compared to both the Mustang GT and Camaro SS. Based on the fact you have to pay an additional $15,000 to get the SRT8 just to be on the same level as the GT and SS, I would say the Challenger is a huge fail right now.
Alex Smith Jun 05, 2012
When you think about it, the R/T should be the Challenger that is competitive with the Mustang GT and Camaro SS because all 3 models are the base V8s and all 3 have a base price of about $30,000 however the Challenger R/T sucks in performance...
Jason W. Evers Jun 05, 2012
None of these are big blocks
Extremis Colson Jun 05, 2012
I love my dodge charger, the next one I get will be the challenger!!!
Tino Nickolas Alanis Jun 05, 2012
@Mikey, Chevy and dodges big blocks weigh between 6-800 and the modular engines are between 4-600. Not saying I don't like big blocks, just saying they weigh alot more
Mikey Jimenez Jun 04, 2012
@Tino that's not needed. Usable power bands are what they want. And dodge and chevy blocks are light than fords modular engines.
Devin Babyn Jun 04, 2012
There still small blocks. Well I know the Chev is, not sure about dodge
Tino Nickolas Alanis Jun 04, 2012
Challys and some chevy engines are naturally aspirated yes, but their engine displacement is also bigger than fords. I'd be a little more impressed If they could put that much power in a small block like ford does. I do love the sound of big blocks:)
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
Dodge is the only one who offers a mid 8 for those who can't afford insurance and gas of the top models. Chevy, slap a 350 in your camaro and ford, should offer a 351 or 429. Dodge still gives you more choice
David Neuman Jun 04, 2012
Challengers are doing fine thank you. 392's are being tuned at Arrington motors either sc'd or tt 600-800 hp using harness and CPU from the 2010's. Should be interesting:^)
Devin Babyn Jun 04, 2012
Riley you just compared times of the top of the line Chally to the base v8 models for the Stang and Maro. Saying that's competitive is a bit of a stretch
Christopher Helms Jun 04, 2012
They did make a Challenger to compete. It's the Colt and Drag Pack Challenger
Aaron Crisp Jun 04, 2012
Yes the GT500, ZL1, ZR1, CTS-V, Ford GT.. All super charged! Challenger, Charger, and Viper are all NA! Pure power, love it. Not that I don't like any of the cars I listed.
Christopher Helms Jun 04, 2012
Forget about Fords period. The mustangs are over rated. Chrysler is doing awesome with their performance. Naturally aspirated power is the best, shows how much better the engine can be.
Mark A. Young Jun 04, 2012
Forget about superchargers, dodge kept it simple and the sound of a Hemi is simply amazing.
Jerry Cole Jun 04, 2012
and i think the CTS-V is too, but idk for sure
Jerry Cole Jun 04, 2012
Actually the ZR1 and ZL1 are both supercharged...
Michael Ly Jun 04, 2012
I love the fact that dodge and chevy don't need to supercharged their cars to be superfast tho......good ole' natural aspiration!
Avery Williams Jun 04, 2012
Yeah; Dodge needs to step it up with the Callenger because right now, the Camaro ZL1 and Shelby GT500 are neck and neck. But I bet something great is going to happen with the new Barracuda. So Chevy and Ford, look out.
Riley Gonzales Jun 04, 2012
Slap a supercharger on that hemi and you could be pushing 700hp. The srt is faster than the ss and only .1 seconds slower than the gt. So that really is competitive
Chris Penza Jun 04, 2012
Dodge would have better sales if there cars were more competitive with chevy and ford's high end mustangs and camaros
Antonio Falsetti Jun 04, 2012
The only logical reason is that there's no driver. Soon as he gets back the burnout will commence.
Chris McCormick Jun 13, 2013
Classic, saw one of these in my neighborhood, it sounded fantastic
Alex Long Oct 24, 2012
I'm all about Chrysler the challenger rules !
Victor A. Frederick Jun 08, 2012
I bought my 2010 R/T just for the looks and power it has, I don't care who's mustang or camaro is faster...I get more looks than they do...even if the Chally is bigger and slower.
Esam Mohammad Jun 06, 2012
@phillip yah the back pillars will block the view
Phillip Holbrook Jun 06, 2012
Glad you like it, I'd hate to take a road trip back there though.
Esam Mohammad Jun 06, 2012
@phillip yah I did , I have 2012 challenger , the back seats are so comfortable , I'm 183 cms tall . And It's quite roomy back there . My friend has an 2012 Camaro and sitting in the back seats of the Camaro is a problem .
Phillip Holbrook Jun 06, 2012
You said comfortably, have you sat in the back seat of these things? I'm only 5'9" and I feel claustrophobic.
Esam Mohammad Jun 05, 2012
@phillip so why did they make it a 5 seater ? If it's supposed to cruise with only 2 ppl like you said ? Why making 3 extra seats ?
Phillip Holbrook Jun 05, 2012
Then stay away from coupes at all. I think the old Monte Carlos' had the most rear interior space for a passenger, and those were still cramped. A coupe is meant for two people to cruise in and take home that special friend in a pinch.
Esam Mohammad Jun 05, 2012
@zack I do !! I don't want to buy a car that can't take 5 ppl comfortably
Zack Hartman Jun 05, 2012
@esam what?!? Who gives a flying frig who can fit in the car?
Phillip Holbrook Jun 05, 2012
I'm not arguing that it is a bad thing, just that it is not a pony car now. It more solidly fits muscle car status now, which to me you're one or the other, can't be both.
Esam Mohammad Jun 05, 2012
So a guy with a yaris can never make fun of your chally ;)
Esam Mohammad Jun 05, 2012
@tino actually I buy it for a backseat .. Can u imagine the embarrassment when you want to cruise with your friends and you can't fit them in your 30000$ car, while your friend who has a Toyota yaris has more room ?
Tino Nickolas Alanis Jun 05, 2012
@esam, people don't buy a pony car for the back seat. Stop making it such a big deal
Esam Mohammad Jun 05, 2012
@cody actually the mustang has the smallest backseats compared to its competitors
Esam Mohammad Jun 05, 2012
@phillip actually the challengers big size is a good thing , everybody stares at her when she cruises down the road , and it's quite roomy ( way roomier than Camaro and mustang ) .
Jacob McCord Jun 05, 2012
Possibly the best car I've seen brought back with its 99% similarity to it's predecessor.
Cody Matthews Jun 05, 2012
The mustang back seats are pretty roomy to me. I'm 6'1" and I could fit no problem.
Phillip Holbrook Jun 05, 2012
The problem with the new Challenger is exactly its size. It is a full size, near Rolls Royce Ghost sized coupe. Which is to say its f'ing huge, and that is not what a pony car is meant to be. A pony car is meant to be a small car with big engine.
Antonio Falsetti Jun 04, 2012
The resemblance the the old challenger is amazing. Dodge hit the nail on the head.
Tino Nickolas Alanis Jun 04, 2012
Love these cars, but they do not perform better than camaro or mustang. Too heavy, no cornering. Will always be a fan though
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
And glad they got rid of that nasty ram logo on new models
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
Yeah if you made this lighter and smaller, it loses it's essence. It's about stlye, comfort and performance.
Esam Mohammad Jun 04, 2012
@isaac agreed it looks better . But the Camaro and mustang aren't better cars at all . Camaros cheap interior is really a turn off !! And the mustangs back seats are just for looks , you can't really fit human beings back there
Isaac Cerda Jun 04, 2012
I know modern day mustang and camaro. Are way better and faster cars. But I think the challengers appearance is by far the best looking ,looks just like the original muscle car look, if only this car was better,lighter
Antonio Falsetti Jun 04, 2012
This car looks good in any color. Splash mud all over it it still looks great.
Esam Mohammad Jun 04, 2012
Best* stupid auto correction
Esam Mohammad Jun 04, 2012
Black is the bat IMO
Greg MAz Feb 24, 2013
Defenitly the one one the left!
Esam Mohammad Jun 05, 2012
I'll take the red one in the middle
Ghaith AL-sharari Jun 05, 2012
I'll take that roush on the far left
Jacob McCord Jun 05, 2012
R/T Classic. Gimme!!!!
Kevin Carlin Jun 04, 2012
Personally, I like the new challenger over the old one
Antonio Falsetti Jun 04, 2012
Dodge has always been great with colors. I didn't know about certain colors relating to certain years.
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
The year specific colors dodge has done is nice touch, the green with envy, toxic orange and pinkish purple? You know what year those cars are just by color
Cody Andree Jun 04, 2012
I'll take the one on the left plz
Patrick Schalk Jun 05, 2012
This is the Inaugural edition 392.
Devin Babyn Jun 04, 2012
The SRT rims are damn sexy
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
And the stock rims are livable to
David Neuman Jun 04, 2012
Same one I have #830:^)
Craig Lafey Jun 04, 2012
Damn I love this one!!!
Mikey Jimenez Jun 04, 2012
Best color combo for the chally IMO.
Aaron Crisp Jun 04, 2012
So sexy! 392 baby!
Cory Allen Jun 04, 2012
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick!
Antonio Falsetti Jun 04, 2012
I really don't like the rims.
Brandon Whybrew Jun 04, 2012
a dealer sells rag tops here all the time. they have some company make the top. they just sold a twin turbo purple convertible for 60k last week
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
Moon roof is really nice when driving, adds to the experience, since they don't offer a rag top (yet)
Esam Mohammad Jun 04, 2012
Sexy .. But yellow is not my favorite
Jo�l Nijsten Jun 04, 2012
newschool American Muscle... you keep loving it.....
Connor Wagner Jun 04, 2012
The yellow jacket next to the plum crazy purple is the sexiest new challenger
Thomas Vorholt Jun 04, 2012
The sunroof kills it for me. I've never seen one so out of place before. I love sunroofs, I just wouldnt have one on a muscle car. Seems wrong in my world.
Patrick Schalk Jun 04, 2012
This is the yellow jacket. Freakin ba.
Dimitry Mikhailovich Malikov Jun 04, 2012
Black and yellow looks good on the Challenger.
Esam Mohammad Jun 05, 2012
@Antonio don't think so
Antonio Falsetti Jun 04, 2012
Is there any such thing as a bad color combo on this car?
Greg Lewis Jun 04, 2012
Lol, the rallye option is a great way to make us v6 owners to go. I wasn't paying extra ins and 8k more for a bare hemi. Good package
Devin Babyn Jun 04, 2012
I guess you don't have as much pull as Patrick
Esam Mohammad Jun 04, 2012
This is the challenger ralley redline from the NYC auto show 2012 . I hope car buzz makes an article about this one
Phillip Greene Jun 04, 2012
Nk picks of the mitsubishi challenger? Just for fun come on