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Description: Now that the all-new 3 Series is on sale, Motor Trend thought it would be a good idea to pit it against its also admired Audi competitor. The 335i and the S4 go head-to-head to determine what Motor Tr...
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I read so people complain about unfairness between s4 3 series that's because of the price , that's why .. You get more car with the s4 :)
As an Audi fanboy I'm happy with this review. Also hats off to the reviewer. He was very descriptive and eloquent.
new 3 series doesn't seem as exciting so as much of a biased fanboy that i can be, after watching this video, i have to admit the s4 beat it quite well
I'd rather take c63, but I think they should've included it as well with the Audi and bimmer
More importantly, did no one notice the 4.4 0-60 time... That's M3, c63Amg, territory ...
Lol they didn't "forget" to change them... It's a tribute to their original Turbo charged engines... Like the "6.3" on a Mercedes, even though it is only a 6.2 liter... Just tradition...
The s4 used to be turbocharged at first hence the T. However when they switched to superchargers they failed to modify the nameplates on some models. You can spot s4's with the supercharged badge occasionally. The V6T is more common though.
This is kind of a dumb observation, but I don't really like the Audi's front end from dead ahead, it looks like its bulging out... And why does it say V6T on the side? Isn't it supercharged? Shouldn't that be an SC there instead?
I'd rather have an s5 coupe than an s4. So much sexier. I loved that v8.
That's like saying an m3 vs an m3 with DCT should be compared to a completely different car. That's such a stretch and everyone else has it right except you. I have an e92 335i. I cross shopped it with the S4. Look at the engines as well.
@chrisian, I am actually very curious to hear argument on how a 333hp S4 is supposedly in same class as a 420hp M3?
I would prefer a response from Brian below me since he seems to think that a base m3 is top of BMWs line even though there is a comp m3 which has the same power plant but completely different suspension set up
I'm sorry but I must disagree with you all as I have a weekend m3 and daily drive a 325i. Someone made the point earlier but it seems as if some don't want to hear the argument. 335 vs a4, m3 vs s4 and competition m3 vs rs4.
@Cristian, cont... S4 vs 335i, S6 versus 550i, and so on. Audi's RS class competes with M division offerings as of today. Hopefully that clears it up a bit.
@Cristian, actually that is incorrect. It was correct at one time when E46 M3 was in production and B6 S4 came out shortly after. Those two were competitors. However, today's S class Audi competes with BMW's highest non-M division offering.
I have always liked bmw up until this year.. They gave the new lineup stupid crosseye headlights and for me that is a no go.
I don't think the new M3 is photogenic. I'm a BMW guy but when I see it in pics I'm not impressed but everytime I see one I'm person I love the way it love it. Great stance
Im sure it's already been discussed but why are they testing the 335 vs the performance s line of audi? Isn't the fit test to be bmws m vs audis s?
The thing the s4 isn't the direct competitor of either the 335i or the m3. It's kind of in between
I don't like the look of thw new 3 series as much as the old one, so i'd take the audi here.
We just upgraded from a 2010 a4 to this 335 but with the dual clutch and i agree with the "comfort" steering feel but i love a lot of the cool features like the virtual heads up display
That Audi looks gorgeous, but I'd have to take the bmw. I have always been a fan of the 3 series and still am
I had the na 2006 330i. I loved the way it moved. a real drivers car. my new car has turbo and it feels all squishy
My dad has both of these cars (honestly) and I don't care what these guys say the Audi beats it in almost every way
but BMW is running out of naturally aspirated cars, I think just the M3 remains in the US market. That's a hell of a car but it too, will be replaced by a twin turbo setup in the future. I think BMW needs to maintain at least one NA car.
@Neall, this is the appropriate comparison based on both horsepower and price. M3 vs S4 wouldn't really be apples to apples. New M3 vs new RS4 which are yet to come out would be an appropriate comparison on the other hand. That will b nice to see.
Man what happened to the days of the E46 M3, 325i and 330i? Those cars were genuinely fun to drive, had the features and were naturally aspirated meaning power all the way to redline. I understand the need for turbos in terms of better efficiency.
I agree, audi for me. With the old m3 vs the s4, I'd rather the m3, but the new m3 doesn't look as good! It's still nice though...
I'd like to see the regular A4 against the 3-series. Or wait to do the test when the new M3 arrives.
But I'm just a fanboy with a disappointed, broken heart. But anyways, sorry for making too many comments. Just my two cents. For those who agree...I'd actually like to know I'm not the only one.
I really appreciate the alcantara wrapped cup holders and the massage for my butt cheeks...but wouldn't bigger brakes be a better place to start improving from the old 3? Or maybe more horsepower? 300 to 300...huge gain. I know, I sound like a bitch.
Traction control? It's there to help, not do all the work. So take the current steroid injected system and go back to the DSC with 2 settings...ON/OFF. Finally, please oh please BMW...invest time in the things that really matter.
Everyone has their own opinion. I prefer the BMW with the high tech stuff
In my perfect world, the new 3 would be what it once was only better. There would be no turbos, only NA, eliminating lag, adding to the engine note, and getting rid of overheating issues.
Wow, hats off to the S4. Great job from Audi. On the other hand though, why BMW? Why must you take the once soulful and exhilarating 3-series and dullify it with technology that only hinders it?
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Can't you guys add? How can a car launched in 2011 be in its third year of production?
I never really liked this car... I mean the headlights are cool but it looks like they are trying too hard to impersonate an r8 with them... It's not just the headlights though... I've just never really liked A4s...
I like bmws, but this just looks wrong. A step back styling-wise from the pervious generation
The front of the last gen in M spec looks much better. This new one looks odd head on, and the rest of it doesnt look that different. But like they say, it's how it drives
What I've learned from driving many different 3 series is the looks don't matter when you're driving.
Ua but the 3 series imo is priced right not like the a4 which is in the mid to high 30s and with only 211hp..
It looks really good in person, but I thought it was really weird in pictures because they had to slope the front part of the hood... I read somewhere that they had to slope it like that to meet safety regulations for pedestrians in a collision...
That looks fine if you see it in person. It's the lower part of the bumper cover. They have a few different ones depending on what trim you get
Something about the front end just doesn't look right to me. It's just off by that little bit and I'm not sure what it is
why not just base vs base? 328i vs 2.0t a4?
@Nicholas haha well maybe that is the case but I also think it comes down to preferences hey.
stupid comparo.. it should be Audi a4 tfsi or whatever they initial that vs the 335i.. that's fair that leaves for the upcoming m335i vs s4 then m3 vs rs4
My s4 doesent feel "weak" and it is a significant upgrade in power to my s5 with the v8, and very very similar to the M3 I test drove... So maybe your dad has a super 335 that BMW have him by mistake ... Lucky guy!
You know how old this vid is...like a week old
My dad had both of these cars at the same time and he sold the Audi now coz it feels weak and really just looks good. The 335i is fast and u can feel the power surge when u hit the pedal
And seeing the ats at a car show a while back it looked very good
I can't wait to see how they go head to head with the Cadillac Ats, that would be really nice.
S4 is to compete with the 335 . The RS4 is to compete with the M3
Perhaps the RS4 is now better suited to compete with the M3. I'm not sure.
I remember when audi put out the s4 to compete with the m3, what happened to that?