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Description: It's not Tuesday, but this is a drag race that we just couldn't wait almost a week to show. Check out the Honda S2000 against the 2013 Subaru BRZ on the drag strip in the clip below and let ...
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Put 240 on that brz and keep the s2000 the same ... S2000 still win ! Vtec !!!
@Das Stig Yeah its 2005 ap2 s2000 and the 2 cupholders are under the aluminum panel on the center console but just as useless as in my bmw e46
@Graham Those of us who arent only about POWERRRR (get it?) would say that the s2k isn't meant for straight line speed and acceleration. It's made for fun with handling in mind, just like an MX5. All in all, the s2k was essentially a perfect car and
Wfdowns is right, Honda doesn't make it anymore because they made it for their 50 year anniversary and only planned on it being a limited production car.
That S2000 looks exactly like mine. Can't think of anything I would rather have.
putting a v8 in either of them would ruin what makes them great, there about balance not power, takes skill to make them go fast, like previously stated both cars are out of there element, there track cars not drag cars, and s2k isnt around anymore because it was a limited production car for there anniversary
Put a V8 in either and you would have a good car. Your average hot hatch would eat these too, hell a 90's hot hatch would leave them for dead.
Exactly why the GT86 doesn't have loads of horsepower because it's a driver's car like the miata & can still take you & friends around town & even to the grocery store! It's an all-in-one package driver's car... It is a little overpriced
I really have no clue, but there isn't a good enough reason in the world.
its technically a roadster just like the s2000 but all 3 are sports cars and thats what they were built as, the gt86 is just the spiritual succesor to the ae86, mechanically it was built around the boxer engine and the principle of the originall ae86 witch was a light weight car with modest power, the looks were designed using ques from multiple generations of toyota sports cars. car is not a groc...
No surprise that the BRZ lost. The BRZ is made to be a fun driving car. If you want a faster car then the STI is the way to go.
15's is slow for what the s2000 cost new, but remember that's not what Honda built it for.
yea evan except both subaru and toyota stated the car was designed as a drivers car aka a sports car, everything in the car was a compromise for perfect balance
Remember this test was done in France. That initial lead from the Subaru would be about equal with the 2.2L.
To someone questioning the 9K rev limit on an AP2. Not all AP2, received the 2.2L treatment, a lot of other countries retained the original 2.0L motor for several years. I believe only US/Canadian spec motors received the engine update in '04.
Both good cars. Main difference is that the S2000 is a true sports car while the new Hachiroku (BRZ, 86, GT-86, FR-S) is more of a daily grocery getter & is based of the 1983-1987 Toyota Sprinter Trueno/Corolla Levin AE86
You spelled it vtech? Gtfo you could at least spell VTEC right. Even if my spelling is bad that's just making fun of Hondas spelling it vtech. Unless auto correct did that...
I think my.brorher just had a weird one then because I'm sure there aren't any cup holders.
Id get the s2 and dump the difference into new brakes/suspension/wheels/ecu. fun dd and amazing on the track!
I really doubt the Subaru is an auto. Wouldn't be a fair comparison and I wouldn't think the Subaru would be able to spin its tires at the start.
Wait a sec, the s2k has a 9k redline but it looks like an ap2??? The ap2's have an 8k redline since they have the 2.2L instead of the 2L... The ap1 has the 9k redline but that doesn't look like one?
Chris m, why is it embarrassing? Drag racing is all math. Knowing the HP and the weight of the car you can figure out closely what the car will pull. Every 100 pounds of weight you remove from your car will net you about a tenth of a second too.
Adam Page, having no roof actually makes the car heavier. Auto companies have to make the car stronger for crashes because there is no roof. Drag racers will prefer the non convertible cars because they are lighter.
I have an '04 AP2 S2000, has 119k miles on it now and I'm still loving it. Thinking about getting a BRZ as well. In regards to AP1 having cup holders, they actually do. It's a single cup holder located in front of the gear shifter, it flips open.
harry, do you have an ap2? My brother has an ap1 and there are none in there. I drive it a lot because we trade cars every so often. I'm just asking because I don't know if they added them in or not or if his is just a weird one.
I would like to see them around a track. Not having a roof lightens the car but it makes the car less rigid...
Both cars are out of their element. They where built for handling, not drag racing.
I might be alone on this one but I think the brz is a sorry excuse for a subaru
Cr s2000 is 10lbs lighter and I bet it would whoop a brz or rx8 on any circuit
So just buy a s2k my favorite car I have ever owned but we will see once I get an ssk for my m3
@ Das Stig Just wanted to let you know I have an S2000 and it actually does have cup holders but I don't use them becuase theyvget in the way of the shifter!
I want to see an rx8 vs brz around legua seca. I say 8 because 1. That's what I drive lol and 2. It's faster then the s2k the track and they are both built on the purpose of handling first.
s2k is a serious machine. at the time the highest hp per liter for a na motor. love driving those little things.
S2k would dominate on the track. Much more capable car. 90lbs extra in all the right places with 40 more hp is better than a lighter car with much less power. The miata was way slower than the s2k; and for the same reasons. Ls2 s2k swaps ftmfw!
I think the s2k would win on the track too. it was Honda's 50th anniversary car and you can tell when you get behind the wheel that they poured their heart and soul into it. theres no cup holders, there's a thing that covers up the radio so your. not distracted while driving. it is essentially a steering wheel and a gear lever.
I'm sorry but i'd still prefer to buy a 2013 car at basically the same price as a 2008 s2000. I'm curious to see how both perform on a track though
Of course the car with 40 more horses and slightly shorter gearing will win. And they used an automatic BRZ for that race, WTF?
Haha brz had the start then the s2k walked. Kinda sad they cant beat an old car
This really doesn't matter because so many people are just waiting to get their paws on this brz and fr-s and you're better know that people are gonna be dumping out there pockets into them...there gonna be everywhere which is kinda sad and kinda not for me because I want one but I hate having a car that the person next to me is bound to have it happens with the camaro and the mustangs everyday he...
I like both cars. I wish they would do a little more with the BRZ like a BRZ STI or a more high performing low cost car.
The earlier AP1 s2000 was, 2.0L. The later years had 2.2L
Guy in next page posted what I said already
Wasn't the f22 the highest HP production 4cyl in the world for a while?
Alot of owners that auto cross the car keep it stock. When I was stock I was in the same class as corvettes just because the handling is so good. Drag race I would lose being stock but Honda built it as a track car not for drag.
That's Kind of sad....give the damn car more stock power it would be a great car worth the money but as of now I see spending more money on after market shit than the car ous actually worth.
Mine is a 2001 and it had 105,000 miles on it at the time when it did 189 to the wheels stock.
189HP to the wheels on the AP1 s2000 is normal. That's what I dyno'd.
Not 240 to the wheels guys.. Its more like 200 to the wheels
thats an AP2, so im guessin that after nine years that it hasnt lost any more than 20 hp..
What they're trying to say is the S2K is older so it has lost some HP over the years. It won't have 240HP any more.
90lb isn't going to matter when the other car has forty more horses. Come on now.