Comments - Honda NSX On Track; Possibility Of Hybrid

Published: Apr 29, 2011
Description: The Shanghai show is over, but there's a lot of talk going on about Honda's plan for a new sports car that will be the successor to the Honda NSX. Honda's president, Takanobu Ito, state...
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Andy Rogers May 01, 2011
Don't want to bother reading all these comments so I'll sum everything up: the Honda NSX was a wonderful car and if a new one was made as a hybrid it would be ruined. The end.
Patrick Schalk Apr 30, 2011
I think you guys are talking about the CRX.
Anthony Noon Apr 30, 2011
Yea they really did well with making the CRZ a hybrid! That's why they are making a strictly gas motor option. And the old CRZ gets better mpg they the new one.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Adding another engine means more weight. I woudnt like that
James Miller Apr 29, 2011
its not just about fuel economy, but more torque, its adding another engine what's not to like.
Bilal Saeed Apr 29, 2011
Screw hybrids! Find another way to save the planet! I like cars just the way they are!
James Miller Apr 29, 2011
I'm with pablo, look at the new gt3 hybrid. Everyone just hears hybrid and thinks prius, in my moms camry hybrid it moves pretty good and it doesn't even seem like the motor is barely working, compared to a regular 4cyl working as hard as it can. Hybrid and electric are going to be the future in all type of cars, performance and efficient.
Luis A Villalpando Apr 29, 2011
"Fun to drive" and "environmentally friendly" don't go together unless the word "not" is between them.
Taylor Addison Apr 29, 2011
talking about a Prius here gents. The M35h is a great example. Plus by the time this is actually launched, who knows where battery tech will be? As far as hydrogen, aside from having to be stored in a HIGHLY pressurized tank, I'm for it
Matt Robbins Apr 29, 2011
... to make that power. It's very expensive to convert to e85 and in most cases it isn't worth it. E85 doesn't get as good as mpg as gas.
Matt Robbins Apr 29, 2011
E85 Ethanol burns cooler than regular 93 oct gasoline which allows it to make a little more power at lower rpms because you can be more aggressive with the timing and retardation. Only drawback is it requires 20-30% more E85 than gasoline to make...
Taylor Addison Apr 29, 2011
I'm with Pablo on this. Engine + Electric Motors will eventually become the norm. The Electric motors generate such enormous torque they can take load off the Engine, allowing it to more efficiently distribute power in the mid to high revs. We aren't
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
It takes more energy to make ethanol, than the same weight made can produce.... It is only being made to find a use for corn/drive the price up. Do some research.
Kyle Bohne Apr 29, 2011
Gas has more energy cuz it takes a lil longer to burn than alcohol .. Alcohol waste all it's heat by the time the piston is like 60% on the power stroke
Zamiyaad Kausmally Apr 29, 2011
Isn't ethanol more efficient than normal gas Maybe that's one of the reason it's more expensive
Zamiyaad Kausmally Apr 29, 2011
@Grant I know, it's because of hybrid bs
Zamiyaad Kausmally Apr 29, 2011
Damn not the NSX the legend
Rueben J Yslas Apr 29, 2011
For all the heavy liftin
Rueben J Yslas Apr 29, 2011
Pablo I agree wit everything ur sayin except the electric motor U remember the fact that if they keep costs down the electric motor will way a ton so all the torque jus made is offset by the weight of the motor So basically u gotta rely on the engin
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
Too bad oil isn't running out... The largest reserve was just found in America by the Canadian border. Get your facts straight.
Drew Wa Kleyweg Apr 29, 2011
pablo did anyone say crap about desiel? and were pissed the fact that they are turning a v10 monster into a little hybrid. its demeaning...
Grant Paquin Apr 29, 2011
Immediately I think of how much a fail the crz is compared to the old crx. Why?
Buddy Robinson Apr 29, 2011
I dont want it to be a hybrid either, but it's the way we have to go, if we were not running out of oil and all was well, then you'd get your v10.
Bobby Lite Apr 29, 2011
This is not JDM hahaha
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Haha figures. Good job Honda. Way to cut the balls off of a legend.
Yasser Abdelhalim Apr 29, 2011
Hybrids + sport car= bullshit Sport car= big engine Hybrids = tree hugers ..... People who don't want to waste gas
Jesus Guerra Apr 29, 2011
I would love seeing this except if its actually true and a hybrid I will be ashamed
Blaise Stevensen Apr 29, 2011
Hybrids and sport cars don't mix. I wish car companies would stop trying to make it work.
Andrew Mullin Apr 29, 2011
Please dont ruin the nsx!!!
Jorge Martins Apr 30, 2011
Honda all the way. I miss my B17 :(
Tom Franquelli Apr 30, 2011
Only Honda worth looking at.
Danny Alvarado Apr 29, 2011
Type R!! :) My first dream car!
Dez O'Connor Apr 29, 2011
the old one was one of the best cars of its time
George Rust Apr 29, 2011
This view reminds me of Stealth/300GT.
Perry Mu Apr 29, 2011
Great news! If this car has 2+2 seat I will definitely buy one
Description: No other details were provided on the sports car or a timeline for its launch; however, a Honda spokesman said that the car is expected to use an electric motor to give the engine a boost, similar to ...
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Ken Madison Apr 30, 2011
You can get 30mpg if your going along in 6th at 1500-2000rpm. As long as it's on a flat stretch.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Haha no it's not. It's ok dude. You're wrong but now you at least know that Vettes can get 30 mpgs on the highway.
Ori Haviv Apr 29, 2011
You can even drive over the speed limit and get good mpg. It's all about how your start and maintaining smooth acceleration
Ori Haviv Apr 29, 2011
I'm not talking about highway miles. And when I mean driving slow, I'm talking about starting slow and stopping acceleration way before a red light
Matt Robbins Apr 29, 2011
.. 1800 - 2200 rpm it can pull just about any hill without changing gears. It's amazing that the LS1 in the Vettes can get such good mpg but they can.
Matt Robbins Apr 29, 2011
My 01 6spd coupe can get as high as 34mpg if I REALLY baby it and drive like a trucker. Just driving on the highway, not worrying about mpg, will net 29-31 mpg. It's geared just perfect for this and has so much low end torque that in 6th gear at..
Vincent Butler Apr 29, 2011
Patrick the speed limit is 110mph when I drive. Lol
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Ori I'm sorry you can't come to terms with reality and are still not taking my advice. And no that's going 65-70. The speed limit.
Ori Haviv Apr 29, 2011
I would like to see someone actually achieving 30 mpg. The drive would be so slow and boring. You probably start going 2 mph.
Nick Singleton Apr 29, 2011
The C6 does get 30 on the highway. Both manual and auto are 6 speeds
Ori Haviv Apr 29, 2011
Yea I really doubt that any vette can get 30 mpg. I'm not hating on vettes. I love the new ones but I don't see that happening
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Well do yourself a favor and look at some Vette forums and people who actually own Vettes and can attest to it. Read up bud.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
And look at some forums for people who own Vettes.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Dude look it up. My fiances mom has a C6 and they do get that. Don't be mad because Vettes can get good mpgs and whoop some arse
Ori Haviv Apr 29, 2011
Yea the drive is a lot different. They're a lot of cars that have different hp but same size engines. @patrick I want you to find me a vette that does 30 mpg because that's hard to believe.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
You guys are just posting hp numbers? What does that have to do with performance? What happened to growing brains?
James Miller Apr 29, 2011
To me it doesn't matter what size engine a car has or if its a hybrid, what does matter is how it actually performs. 2000 4.0l v6 mustang ~196hp 2000 3.2l v6 TL ~240hp I know the mustang has torque but that is still pretty sad.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Well I'd like to put a procharger or magnusson on it so it'd be around 600 after that. But about 480-490 NA. Gonna be sweet!
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
So you'll end up with a 6.6l??? What do you think your numbers will be???
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Yeah I'm gonna get a 408 stroker kit for my FRC C5 I'm gonna have and use an iron 6.0 block (LQ9). A lot of guys who have the f bodies do the 383 stroker kits.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Yep. It's awesome. Full suspension and exhaust. It's a really fun car. I loved that era of cars
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
My buddy used to have a Camaro with a ls1 an he ended up outing a striker kit or whatever on it and the displacement went up quite a bit. Great car.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Yeah I think the C5s had like 2.43 gears or something low like that. Plus they are light and aerodynamic. My old ass Z28 gets like 25-26 mpgs
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
Huh. Never knew that. I guess they could sacrifice some of that fuel economy for performance???
Nick Morella Apr 29, 2011
Part of the vette's great mileage is it's gearing. But the LS is still a very efficient motor which is also quite compact for a V8. Even the 4th gen camaro's and firebirds were rated at 25mpg back on the day.
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
But Pablo, I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not, but I would actually like to know. They run relatively high compression in the LS6/3, and have everything going balls to the wall, but still get 26-8 mpg Anyone know?
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
Regardless.... Don't put batteries and that jazz In a car like this, even though I would never get one. It means the cars I like could end up with batteries some day!
Ray Lockhart Apr 29, 2011
I've never been a fan of Honda but the Nsx is an outstanding car, and when I read a hybrid version? Come on you are really going to do that to it, please don't.
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
Patrick is right. It's odd how the LS series makes better fuel economy than most 6 bangers
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Well either way I'd rather have a Vette that gets 30mpgs than a hybrid that gets? And I'll still be able to spank that a**.
Zamiyaad Kausmally Apr 29, 2011
@Patrick true maybe we would be the last countries making real men muscle cars on the planet in like 10 years while the others would be making electric cars
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
270hp from a supposed SC V6? Pretty crappy.
Victor Rocha Apr 29, 2011
Nnnoooo y mess up something good...
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Well I have more reason to like American muscle/pony cars now. Least they aren't dumb enough to make a hybrid sports car. They just make those big screaming V8s somewhat fuel efficient.
Blaise Stevensen Apr 29, 2011
Remember the good old days when Japanese sport cars had twin turbos and/or high performance six cylinders? Good times...
Daniel Hernandez Apr 29, 2011
I hope they dont mess this up, keep the hp as is or boost it, hybrids and sports car dont mix too well :/
Andrew Blocker Apr 29, 2011
Please don't make a fancy crz...make an NSX!!
Michael Nembhard May 01, 2011
WTF? I thought they had redesigned it and was planing on production until it was nixed.
Michael Nembhard May 01, 2011
You are right, this is the old discontinued Acura NSX.
Tim Maher Apr 30, 2011
I hope everyone means the C5 looks like this car. This isn't the new model, it's the old one and I pretty sure it came out before the C5.
Jorge Martins Apr 30, 2011
This looks alot better. vv
Ivan Morgan Apr 30, 2011
The corvette (c5) looks like this car, i guess imitation is the best flattery.
Payne Hodges Wilson Apr 30, 2011
It could just be me but I always thought this car looked a bit like a Ferrari with a little corvette and 3000gt mixed in which i think makes or an awesome car they could make it right now identical to the originals and I would buy one instantly
Jeriot Dowland Apr 29, 2011
Now that you mention it, from the side it totally does lol
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
I didn't know if anyone else would see that either haha. I saw that orange one and thought of my friends orange vette,
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Haha they do look A LOT like the C5
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
Revolutionary is design? The side view looks like a C5 corvette.
Sebastian Grey Apr 29, 2011
I never liked the looks of these cars but I can't deny they were revolutionary.
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
There is a lot of C5 in this.... Which isn't bad. Look at the over all shape, not details.
Francis Edward Ayala Apr 29, 2011
Yes Honda, please replace the NSX!
Carlie George May 02, 2011
Honda sells hybrids they lose money on type r's with hondas you have to do things yourself ...swap them out have fun ...then swap them again
Ethan Core Apr 30, 2011
@ Matt they were originally hondas they got rebadged for the us
Shaylen Kumar Patel Apr 29, 2011
@Marcel the only difference Is the badge.
Austin Bride Apr 29, 2011
I wouldn't go as far as the best looking but good yes
Eddie Harper Apr 29, 2011
Still a classic beauty.
Mike Hawk May 01, 2011
Holy moses...the Powerthirst ads were awesome!! Where can I get some! "find a new god"
Tim Maher Apr 30, 2011
Depend on the tune of the flat 6. I've seen a lot of 6's destroy other cars. Hell my buddy had a wrx (boxer 4) that ate a vipers lunch.
Mike Hawk Apr 30, 2011
Exactly. What happens when a flat6 takes on a v10?
Patrick Schalk Apr 30, 2011
Soooo what happens when a "sports car" can outperform a "supercar"?
Sebastian Grey Apr 30, 2011
@Mike, Powerthirst has that covered.
Tom Franquelli Apr 30, 2011
The GTR and LFA turned me, I used to hate Jap cars so much. This better be amazing to keep up, which it won't be, as even the original NSX wasn't all that great.
Mike Hawk Apr 29, 2011
Nice one, rich. "hypercar" makes me think of a car fueled on redbull and crystal meth
Mike Hawk Apr 29, 2011
Hell...if I could travel back in time and kill the douchebag responsible for coining the term "supercar" I'd do it in a heartbeat before the word ever gets around
Mike Hawk Apr 29, 2011
Presently, the comparison to question is Sportscar or racecar? I just think that would be more appropriate
Mike Hawk Apr 29, 2011
Supercar vs sports car? Thats just all diluted now. We've got V6s & flat6's keeping up with v10s. It's like we're going back to the 1960's & 70's, where the term "supercar" didn't exist. It's a yuppie term IMO.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
That video of that guy doing the Nurburgring is absolutely insane too. The in dash camera makes you poop your pants
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
Either way, the GTR, Z06, Viper and ZR1 are the most bang for your buck in super cars. And yes, Z06 is a super car. On everything except price.
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
I think you were getting at the GTR is more drivable, the ZR1 is more race-able in professional hands. I read that Jim mero guy who did the nurburgring lap in the ZR1 is just a GM engineer, or not even a corvette race team driver or something.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
Of a small block V8 and a six speed. They are so fun and cheap. And it's terms of bang for your buck nothing matches it
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
I like American muscle cars the most because I can afford them. The fast German cars are boring to me' and I can't afford anything Italian. The Asian stuff is ok. I like the Supra, 350/370Z, Evos and STis. But nothing matches the raw power and sound
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
Every professional review I have seen says the GTR is better for normal people.... But a truly professional driver will make better times on most tracks with the ZR1. If you've driven a corvette, it's hard to control. But the results when you do!
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
the GTR is right there at the top of the list at bang for your buck value.... But in the hands of a professional driver, the ZR1 will win.
Patrick Schalk Apr 29, 2011
I respect the LFA but the money it took to research, build, and what it cost does not reflect it's performance figures. I'll take the GTR or a ZR1.
Ken Madison Apr 29, 2011
The GTR is too boxy. And the LFA is a GT/ZR1 competitor.... That costs $400,000
Zamiyaad Kausmally Apr 29, 2011
The R35 kinda have the looks of a supercar, it got the performance of one but not as expensive And thats the good thing about it
Mike Botté Apr 29, 2011
Gtr is more of a supercar then most. And in a test result the gtr beat the Lexus lfa like from stop but at the end it slipped passed the gtr, but then take the price and gtr just won completely. It's a supercar.
Sebastian Herdoiza Apr 29, 2011
A real supercar from japan is the LFA
Paul Affolter Apr 30, 2011
The interior looks REALLY dated
Ivan Morgan Apr 30, 2011
I agree this is a nice looking car overall, the interior looks top grade.
Dilbaksh Dhillon Apr 30, 2011
Still better than most new cars