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Description: The 2010 Dodge Challenger R/T is equipped with a 5.7-liter Hemi V8 that puts out around 375hp and just under 400lb-ft of torque. It's a close call between the two, as only 45hp and 10lb-ft of...
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Hmmm that's odd. I guess the ones that I've seen being dynoed that day were terribly maintained because I was seeing 20-35% loss which is quite extreme.
David, I think Ed got kicked out haha. Anyways the highest I've seen around my area is 410. I seen three 392 on the dyno here so far and the median for my current city is about 398. I also live at 5500ft do we don't get as much oxygen for the vehicle
Where do you people get your information? Your both wrong way wrong incredibly wrong. The 392 has been showing 420-430 whp which is approx 12% loss due to friction in drivetrain. That is a little above average but not much.
Also zr1 corvettes are dyno anywhere from 520-540whp. I can't tell me a car rated at 605 engine hp can loose almost 200hp at the wheel. Your math is way wrong on that one. But again your in the same area for a z06, the numbers you said are right
@matthew, where were you getting those numbers that I said. The 392 is rated at 470hp, I never said wheel hp. The regular r/t sounds about right with those numbers you said. The 392 should get around 380-390whp
@Dustin, the Challenger doesn't even pull out close to 427WHP. That would make it more efficient then an F1. It pulls out between 250-270RWHP max. This one in the video dynoed at 232 with non-synthetic oil. A ZR1 Corvette gets 445 RWHP so I doubt that this car gets close to that.
Though, your a funny guy. I look forward to talking to you in the future when I need a good laugh.
Haha I haven't even been talking about your kids. I've been talking to you. I haven't called you any names. I just said that I fell bad for your family, that's it. Someday you will thank me and realize that I was right. I've had fun talking to you
Apology accepted Ed. I wasn't attacking anybody, I don't care about your kids. I'm simply stating facts, that is all. Yes I am the bigger man, I don't call people pussies over the Internet, I'm sure it makes you feel good inside when you do it.
Eds just mad bro! My car is better lookin and unnoticeably slower in 1/4 mile. Put a blower on 392 then bring on Fagtange dude. Proud to own a rustange are ya? Dime a dozen dude dime a dozen....
David if I'm not mistaken, on average they do the quarter in a 12.5-12.8. It varies by magazine. You are also correct, they haven't done a comparison with the 392 yet.
Ed that was a 2010 srt8. Not the 392 buddy..... Different car here case you didn't know. There has been no comparison in motor trend with the 392 against a gt or ss. Look up 392 drags on YouTube. 12.4 qtr mile:)))) stock!!!! Gt does this ????
I cant wait for your next rant cause they really do make my day. Well have a great day being the amazing family man you are who likes to call people "pussies" over the Internet. Make your family proud of there dad.
A cliff you didnt mean for me to kill myself? Usually when somebody take a fall off of a cliff they usually die just so you know. Maybe you should try it? Just a suggestion since you don't die. Well I I'll talk to you in a little bit and
Cause you seem like that type of guy. I know your gonna say you never got picked on and you were captain of the football team and banged lots of chicks cause your that types of personality. Oh 1 more thing I forgot to say, when you said jump off
What..... These are just words, if you can't take some words how are you going to raise a family. You can say whatever you want and my family, I won't get mad cause words don't hurt. You must have been picked on alot when you were younger
Your getting better and better. That was a good rant but you missed 1 important thing. Your not a man, if you were a man we would be having civilized conversation about this topic. If you want to say something about my family go ahead cause guess
Only one that matter cause you must know everything. I bow down to you sir, for your almighty knowledge. It's just like when you said for me to kill myself, why get offended, that's your opinion and I understand that. See how that works. It's easy :)
I'm sure that all you do is look at all the articles and try to start shit with people. I'm ok with it, some people just need that sort of attention. I'm going to say this again, I was giving my opinion on the thread and I guess your opinion is the
Heated over a car argument lol. It wouldn't shock me if you beat your wife since your getting mad over a petty car thread. It just makes me laugh every time I read it cause all I said was that a couple cars weren't fast. Lol your pathetic....
Haha your funny, you started with the name calling. I thought we were having a civilized argument about cars. Don't embarrass yourself like that, it doesn't look good for you or your family. I can see your doing a great job with your family getting
You sir are the immature idiot. Foo your self a favor and don't reproduce cause this country doesn't need another worthless family like I'm sure you already have. So anyways I'm going to go ahead and be the bigger man and leave this conversation.
Right sure you have. You sound like such a smart person. Getting so offensive over my "opinion" on a vehicle. I'm sure you drive a veyron, own the Yankees, and bang Paris Hilton. Then again you probably just live in a basement.
Have you ever driven a truly fast car? Your opinion would chang,. But whatever I have my opinions and you have yours.
It's not a fast car, a 12 sec car is not fast. It's quick and handles well. Maybe I'm just c
Why would I lie???? Just because I work at dodge I have to own a dodge? I like fords and always have, dodge just pays better.
I like the way the 392 looks and it performs well for what it is, but it's just to heavy of a car.
Ok David, Ed is right. Numbers don't lie, it's physics. Power to weight always wins. Ok Ed, i work at dodge as a master tech and own a 2011 5.0 mustang, 2004 cobra with a 2.8 kenne bell on 22psi. The 5.0 is quick but it's not fast.
You lie! Show me a test involving new 392? Wrong buddy no comparison has been made with stock 392 against gt or ss. Motor trend really? Magazines seriously? You have never raced ab392 in a gt. I have many times!!! No no no contest:)))
When you spend 50 grand things are little different then coming on here saying I would do this or that. Spend the money then talk.
Sorry mustang gt loses every and I mean every time. Gt 500 different story. Gt never or ss not even close I drove both before buying so yea I know. I could have purchased any of these cars and did. I didn't fantasize about I purchased one big dif.
They are nice looking cars don't get me wrong, your saying your car would smoke a new gt when virtually they would post right around the same times maybe a little faster for the mustang. Both cars are no where neer "fast" by any means.
I know on paper they are supposed to put out 470hp and 470 torque. That's paper though, based on usual loss to the wheels maybe 10% on most cases (maybe more cause of the 20 inch runs you probably have) your looking at a 427whp car that weighs a ton
I understand that but, to me there are just too many and they all look the same. Don't get me wrong I like the stang it's a beast but, to me the challenger is better looking and is fast by any definition.Are you sure all those stickers make it faster
Probably 450-470 hp? If anything this engine is underrated. Find me one just one source for your 450 figure? I looked at a gt 500 but it too me looked like every mustang out there sorry.
Dustin do you really think I purchased this car because it "only does a 12.5 sec 1/4 mile"? The mustang is a good lookin car now but not then. The challenger is a much better lookin car period. I have a family that fits in my car!
@ David, you realize that you paid probably 48-50k for a car that runs mid to high 12's. You can spend half that and get yourself an 03-04 cobra and do that. Embarrassing the 392 puts out around 450-470hp and only put up a mid to high 12's
@ Shane you are obviously not smart, the fastest muscle car in 1970 was the 455 Buick gs stage 1. It did a 13.38 @ 105.5. The times vary but that was put down by motortrend.
@Ed, very possible. Both of them were young kids with their leased cars. Overall the winner only got 50$, probably half the money he will spend on maintenance later.
@Ed actually it wasn't. It's just that since it's heavier it doesn't peel out unlike the Mustang that peels out the whole first gear. The R/T was getting times of 13.03-13.10 the whole time but this time he went sideways. Both are completely stock, I checked them myself.
I actually took this video, I'm MazzaFiveOneFour, and I just want to mention that the Challenger is faster, he just went sideways for half a second at the 0:17 second mark.
I'm sad to read all these trolls. I hate the Camaro and love the mustang and challenger, but this feed sucks. No love from anybody
If your gonna race them they need to be in the same hp class at least. But hey I don't race mine and it over a year old and less than 6,000 miles. It's a collector. I'm not a car nazi, they are all great.
I own a chally r/t. It turns more heads than a naked virgin. Sure it's 5300 lbs and not the fastest. I can tell ya that it will hold value better than the mustangs. Also I notice the gt and ss cars race the r/t and not the srt 8. It's pathetic.
Your rousch looks like the other 3 million mustangs on the road. That's an aftermarket tuner car. See me once we have a sc' er next year. Thingy? I get more looks in a day than you'll get in the lifetime of that stang.
The video quality is so great that I clearly saw who won /sarcasm Might as well have watched a blue square move with a silver square
3 billion mustangs on the road, see them everywhere. Its the car you buy if you want to win. Challenger is a head turner, hauls decent a$$ and is way more comfortable. Either way these are both great cars and it's fun to see them run each other!
Yeah gotta say the challenger is still ahead of the mustang on my list (not speed wise of course) but it just rides so smooth and it looks incredible
This was a lop-sided race anyway, but I'd still take that chally any day of the week
@Dustin you obviously don't know muscle cars then. The Challenger/Cuda held the fastest stock 1/4 mile time in 1970-71 I think, beating out the vette
My speed bike would destroy both of these cars...in reverse (sarcasm ppl laugh a little)
You want to put the top level cars together? So a gt500 vs an srt8? Wouldn't even be close, Shelby would smoke that thing
The mustang will beat any stock challenger coming from Dodge, not even the 392 can hit 60 mph in 4.2 like the mustang due to weight. That being said, I would still rather have the Challenger, look at it, then look at the pusstain, it's gorgeous!
The 2011 Mustang GT will out run any Challenger. I'm a fan if the Challenger but even the new 392 is slower than the Mustang 5.0 GT. it's just too heavy
David Neuman, your car might win against a stock Mustang GT, it won't "destroy"! I have a friend who just bought one of those 392 thingys, and paid about the same as I did for my Roush Stage 3. Racing a 392, I'd be mad at you for wasting my gas!
The p51 is the obvious winner... chally may have a bit higher torque but it weighs like its made out of Lead!
Challengers are the same now as they were in the 60's and 70's, big engine, lots of power, big weight, and lackluster performance. The gt should have won by more than it did. The challengers are nice to look at but that's it
Challenger is what 4300lbs? Mustang is around 3600lbs, it's like racing an suv. The challenger is an heavy four door family car repackaged as a sport coupe to make a little money off nostalgia. Charger, challenger, 300C all need to drop about 500 lbs
And ya challenger is still based on the old Mercedes e and s class platforms mashed together... Wichita is sad not hating but while the challenger is still a great muscle car the mustang and camaro have moved on to become actual sports cars
... The srt8 is more comparable performance wise... But the r/t should be equivalent to the gt but dodge sucks the srt8 if it were worth it's weight in salt would bea able to compete with the gt500 and zl1... dodge people don't understand that
Ok, honestly?? This whole comment list sounds sillier than that video. The Mustang won because of is power to weight ratio. To add, the "top level" would probly be the hennessee chally and the Boss 302 Leguna Seca. Even though hennessee isn't really linked to one particular company. Lastly, @Christian, it is 5.0.
Challies are just too heavy, and they're not really built for performance.
Challenger is a pig. Too heavy. Those sounded like they had exhaust at the least.
My American muscle I favor is gone...but it's ok. Because my bro has one in the garage ;)
why do they do this? it should be top level vs. top level..... they dont credit the chally enough
Sigh. Never expected the Chally to win, of course, but I can't resist beig disappointed again. Chally's still my favourite muscle, though, for a ton of reasons but I'm too lazy to start a lecture.
I'd bet money if it was an srt rather than rt (6.4 rather than 5.7) it wouldn't won easy
You clearly don't know American muscle cars. There's no way the stand could lose
Mustang V6, mustang GT, and the GT500. Challenger V6, challenger RT and the SRT8. Why shouldn't the GT and RT go at it? Because dodge makes slow pigs lol!
this isn't fair. why just the r/t?